Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope is a renowned expert in forensic accounting, risk, and white-collar crime research. She is the Dr. Barry Jay Epstein Endowed Professor of Forensic Accounting at DePaul University and has won several awards for her contributions to education and documentary filmmaking. Her expertise lies in identifying financial fraud risk and assessing corporate culture and compliance systems. Dr. Pope’s research on executive misconduct resulted in the award-winning documentary, All the Queen’s Horses, which explores the largest municipal fraud in U.S. history. She is also known for her TED Talk, “How Whistle-blowers Shape History,” which has been translated into 20 languages and viewed over 1.6 million times. Her new book Fool Me Once talks about the scams, stories and secrets from the trillion-dollar fraud industry. In this interview, I speak to Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope about the types of fraud and ethical missteps that leaders will encounter, the importance of governance and process, common holes in most companies that make them open to fraud and ethics issues, and how we can protect ourselves and our businesses.