There have been well-known people who actually have advocated rights for great apes – chimps and orangs and gorillas. They’re our closest genetic relatives; but why should we exclude any creature that can suffer? If you hold the paw of a little rabbit or a mouse or whatever so hard that it squeaks or screams, isn’t that cruel? isn’t that hurting it? What right have we got to hurt animals like that? We don’t have any right at all.