“I'm not saying that we should take-on less stress… the problem with the narratives around hustle-culture is that these narratives operate on one paradigm… you should either be working really hard, nor not working too hard.. that's a really primitive conversation. To be successful, you have to overcome a level of stress that would break most people. Building a company is not a sprint, it's a marathon… if you look at the world's best marathon runners, they're running in 4 minute miles. You have to learn how to take on an incredible amount of stress, and sustain it for a really long time.”